I’m assuming that will happen

I think the first “master plan is pretty realistic for what we can expect. I think a 30k seat stadium would be best. I think at least half of the end zone should be seats and not just a beer garden tho.

I would have a hard time seeing them not adding a team playing in the #20 tv market in the nation. Best believe that played a part in them wanting to add Davis to the MW.

I’m happy Coach Plough gave the admin a bit of a push last season in the playoffs. The more successful Davis is, the more it pushes the admin to get their stuff together.

They definitely need to improve on their marketing and game day experience.

Also I’d like to be clear, I’m not advocating for Davis to move up to FBS next year. We’re about 3 seasons away from the reported timeline (2029 move up). In no way should Davis move up without stadium renovations and improvements to the fan experience (to get more people to games).

Yes, I want Davis to be a big time football school. I’m a think big type of person. I also know it takes money to grow, not just in sports but in all facets of like. Can’t really get places with a something for nothing mindset.

Let’s see how Cal does with attendance this year. Stanford was bad, and bad teams usually have bad attendance. Based of my knowledge of the situation, Cal is expecting to have the tarps removed this season due to great ticket sales.

I looked that up, that is true. 105 total scholarships. Still no minimum.

ok, thanks for the explanation. Hopefully things are different.

How does ANYONE know that there hasn’t been people donating towards the renovation. Why, because it hasn’t been announced that building has commenced?

Lmao, does anyone have any sources on where we’re at with funding the renovation, other than guesswork?

Again, please provide sources. Davis tuition is only $6k more than SJ State, a mountain west school? So how would that blow up the budget. There is also no minimum for the amount of scholarships, but there are 85 (full) max scholarships allowed, up from 63 from FCS. So they CAN, but not required to, offer 22 more scholarships. 85 x $48k (I’m rounding up on tuition and board) is 4.08 million. San Jose state would be 85 X $37.5 = 3.1875 million. So let’s say a difference in scholarship cost of about a million dollars.

San Jose Stats football expenses were about $16 million according to . So let’s assume Davis would have about $17 million in expenses. NO WHERE NEAR the $25 million amount you threw out there.

Where are you getting your numbers from? You keep throwing it numbers with no evidence, no links, just saying stuff. I’m not engaging you on this anymore.

The point I was making today is most people against the move are not pushing any reasons backed by fact. All I’m asking for is just to provide sources. It not hard to add a link to your post.

https://herosports.com/fbs-mountain-west-football-budgets-look-like-ksks/
Actual operating expenses. Less than what you quoted. Again, most schools subsidize their football program, just like every other sport.

If we’re worried about turning a profit let’s cut all Olympic sports and most women’s sports. The fact of the matter is college sports cost money, but they don’t cripple the university. Again, someone please show how staying in the FCS would be a better long term economic decision than moving to FBS. WITH EVIDENCE.

where did you get that number

1. UC Davis is not moving up to P4 status like Cal and UCLA, so their budgets are not comparable. UC Davis would be moving to G6 football. The average HC salary in the mountain west is under 2 million dollars. We aren’t talking about basketball cost as all other sports other than football are already in the mountain west. Davis is a non football member. https://nevadasportsnet.com/news/reporters/how-much-every-head-football-coach-in-the-mountain-west-and-pac-12-will-make-in-2026

Davis does not have the facility debt UCLA or CAL has, and will be using donations to fund the football renovations. Again, the cost of G6 football is extremely lower than P4. It’s slightly a step about FCS.

I will also like to point out while yes, Cal and UCLA are in the bay and LA, UC Davis is in the #20 tv market in the country. Far better than most schools. So it’s not like Davis is in an unfavorable location.


Now onto the point of resources, this is something I agree on and have been harping about. Davis has been doing a bad job with this, but we are slowly seeing improvements. I don’t even understand how the coach had to fight to make sure players had a place to stay for the FBS semifinals. Absurd. Even the game day experience sucks. But I’ll let the admin take care of that, and I may make a few suggestions to that.

Also I won’t be surprised if in 15+ years Davis tried to move to P4. I’d like to remind everyone UC Davis is an affiliate member of the Big 12 in some sports (that aren’t included in the MW)

All Davis to FBS deniers, please answer the following questions with sources.
1. What is our current FOOTBALL media rights distribution vs what we can expect from the mountain west.

2. Please explain how moving football, which is the biggest revenue producer in college sports (Football and men’s basketball subsidize the other sports with their revenue), to a higher division, which would then increase our media payout, increase the level of competition and brand name competition (which would increase ticket sales and tv viewership) would hurt the school. KNOWING that increased media payout from football would boost the athletic budget.

Also knowing that being in FBS would boost the brand recognition and get more out of state tuition, again, making more money. Here is an interview with AD DeLuca speaking on this. https://youtu.be/t3fbSpb_WJc?is=Hq78LWbgQhsRb4Kg

3. Please explain why we would pay and exit fee from the mountain west to join the PAC 12 when we JUST joined the mountain west. That literally does not make sense. REMINDER, Davis is a NON FOOTBALL member of the mountain west. Meaning we are already a member of the conference, just not for football. We CANNOT join the pac 12 for football and remain in the mountain west for all other sports.

4. Please show what 20 year football revenue projections would be for moving to FBS vs staying in FCS. I find is EXTREMELY unlikely staying in FCS will provide a better economic outlook than moving to the FBS

long term wise, yes, getting into the FBS before major conference realignment is worth it.

Where did you see that there is a reported negative number? Where did you see there would be no meaningful conference distribution? Please link me to reports on this.

Davis gets a 1/6 media deal payout in 2026 and is increased every year and gets a full media deal payout in 2032. https://nevadasportsnet.com/news/reporters/details-from-uc-davis-heavily-redacted-membership-agreement-to-join-the-mountain-west

The current MW media deal expires in 2032. According to our projections of joining FBS in 2029, that would leave 3 years of play until the new media deal. (And I will once again reiterate that once Davis joins the FBS, they will be a FULL Mountain West Member, not a football affiliate like NIU and NDSU).

In regards to the MW spending all its money, there is settlement between the PAC 12 and the MW regarding exit and poaching fees owed to the mountain west. https://apnews.com/article/pac-12-mountain-west-lawsuits-a06f727ea50847ec9e0dca0b6502e008

how would the boxes not have any return on investment??? That doesn’t make sense. The school is building it with donated money, meaning the school will be able to funnel the proceeds of the ticket sales directly back into the program.

They are premium box and club seats, so they will make more money than beer garden tickets. ALSO, the new club is designed to host events year round. For example, My HS prom was hosted at Cal Memorial Stadium in their club. Davis can host events year round at their club too.

I could see that for the other side.