What's the legality of committing schollie money to a player, and then yanking it? He hasn't even seen one workout.

Weren't the HS players inked before he joined Sac?

“ What's the legality of committing schollie money to a player, and then yanking it? ”
Ditto. I have the same question.

Up until this fall, players who sign an NLI also had to sign a one year financial aid offer, They just changed that to eliminate the one year, so conceivably it could be shorter or longer beginning this year. Players now have to sign agreements listing everything they are being offered; financial aid, NIL money, loaner car etc.
I think the schools obligations don’t extend to four to six years

New staffs come in and cut guys immediately. Even happening with hs players that just set foot on campus.

But what about guys who signed 4 - 5 year deals?

I know the reality is that coaches have ways to move players / push them out, and students who think they can play don't want to be black balled.

Financial aid agreement used to be for maximum one year, maybe still are I don’t know.

More Sac players are announcing that they have been let go by Marion. Some of their fans on their football forum are shocked at about a few of them. Recent cuts include Dev Gandy, Darren Gandy, Phoenix Rose and Xander Chisolm. Dev Gandy has now been picked up by Incarnate Word.

https://bigskyfans.com/threads/2025-offseason-portal-tracker.29969/page-11

Former Texas and Alabama WR, Agiye Hall, who was ranked as the #1 WR in the country by 247 Sports out of high school has committed to Sac State. Hall was arrested for drug trafficking charges in July of 2023 and was previously kicked off from Texas after being arrested for criminal mischief. He was set to enroll at Central Florida prior to his commitment to Sac State.

https://www.si.com/college/texas/news/former-texas-and-alabama-wr-agiye-hall-please-no-contest-to-drug-trafficking-charge-01j44vybgj4k

Man, not a great look for Sac bringing in such a troubled player. Clearly talented, hope he cleans it up and doesn't jeopardize his freedom or worse.

Dude got buster for some weed. Oh well. Marion recruited him at Texas, obviously has hope and believes he deserves a second chance. If he can make it to the season, gonna be pretty wild to have a #1 WR recruit in the BSC for a year at least!

The word "some" is doing some heavy lifting there. It was 40 pounds of weed.

That being said, I don't particularly care about weed all that much. Also got suspended from Bama for a violation of team rules and from Texas for damaging a parking boot.

Obviously we only know about what's been reported but I don't have much of an issue giving this kid a chance and keeping him on a short leash. If it had been harder drugs and assaulting a woman, that would be a different story.

looks like 3rd or ? chance. I have to chuckle when I see the word “committed” in all caps for dudes who have been at two or three schools. Sort of like a guy “committing” to his third or fourth marriage.

Agiye 4 years out of high school, and he has caught 10 passes.

That's roughly $40,000 at wholesale level (distribution). Cartel connections?

lol. Weed is legal in many states. And you don't straight extrapolate $ per pound. Still a lot, though.

Say what you want but that recruiting class seems more exciting than what we’ve seen coming off of a playoff season…

Wish we were poaching power 5 talent and talent with 4 or 5 stars…

What's happening at Davis is pretty unique. These guys are buying into a culture and system 100%, and actually sticking around to see it through. It seems there is a real and deep attachment to the program and people.
Developing high character, 0-2 star guys like the Gilliam, Doss, Teddye, Connors, Larison etc. over 4-5 years seems more appealing to me long-term.

It'll be a tall task for Sac to get all these guys on the same page and performing as a unit in a really short amount of time. Taylor seemed to have this going and in the beginning stages. I guess this is where Marrion shows how good he is at this thing.... A master-class in motivation and leadership. It can be done.

They will all leave the next year.

Sac State actually has a tough schedule in 2025. Some of their recent seasons have been cupcakes like their 12-0 year.

Is their schedule that tough? They get South Dakota St and Nevada. But in conference they miss Montana St and NAU, and they get both Montana and Idaho at home. I mean, who knows who will actually be good next year so we'll see.

2022 when they went undefeated they also missed Montana St (No.4) but they got Weber, Idaho, Montana and UC Davis and they won at 6-5 Northern Iowa and beat Colorado St by 31.

2021 was softer since they missed Montana St and EWU (both finished top-10).

I guess I just compare schedules to our 2022 team (faced the 1, 2 and 4 seeded playoff teams plus and Idaho team who made the playoffs and Cal) or our 2019 team (faced the 1, 3, 4, 5 and 6 seeded teams, playoff teams in San Diego and North Dakota, and Cal). So everything is relative.

What are people’s thoughts on whether Sac States's announcement of a move up to FBS would push us to announce a similar move?

I think Davis has essentially already announced an FBS move, just without a specific timeline.

Sports reporter, Michelle Dapper of KCRA channel 3, covered the official introduction of Brennan Marion and said, "expect a big announcement about Sac's football stadium soon." It's obvious that Sac is all in and they are gung-ho to do whatever it takes to move up to the FBS preferably the PAC12.

At this point, it appears that they are taking a "build it and they will come" approach. There has been unconfirmed talk that the PAC12 Committee has lined up potential big donors from Sacramento businesses and local area Indian Casinos including $50 million in NIL money but it may depend on whether they get an invite to the PAC12 or a major FBS conference.

They've hired a up and coming head coach who seems to be following the style of Deion Sanders at Colorado where you come in and abruptly clean house by dismissing a lot of the players currently on the roster and bring in a huge number of new players from all over the country. It looks like they are taking a "win at any cost" approach where they are willing to embrace the new era of "professional college football" that involves players chasing big NIL deals and academics and character take a back seat to winning.

I think that Sac State and the SAC12 committee see that the PAC12 needs an 8th football playing school to have any chance of being relevant - or even surviving. The PAC12 also needs a media deal. The 2 needs are definitely linked. The longer things go without one or the other of those 2 needs being fulfilled, the better Sac State's chances.

... "academics and character take a back seat to winning."

"No, don't like that" - Michael Scott

I would prefer we announce an FBS move with or before sac state.

I think Davis has to evaluate their own situation first and foremost. We either have a financial plan, a build plan, a transition plan, and this has all been discussed in detail with the affected programs and donors or we don't and we're just blowing smoke.

I agree.

I think one part of that is becoming year-in, year-out competitive with the Dakota and Montana schools. N. Dakota State has been an FCS power going back to the Jim Sochor era at UCD. But they haven’t made a move to go FBS. I imagine it’s been discussed in—house.

Our AD has stated that those schools have some facilities and other things in place that we don’t. Makes sense to become comparable to their programs before trying to move up.

100% agree.