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I was talking with a fellow from SoCal many years ago and we were discussing the amazing size and geographical diversity of California. At some point, he said he thought the state was too big and therefore too difficult to govern because of how different northern and southern California were in his opinion.

He went on to say that we really should have two states: Northern and Southern California. Then he asked me, hypothetically, where I would draw the dividing line and I said, "Well maybe just north or south of Fresno. So I asked him where he would divide the state and he said, "Just north of Santa Barbara."

That kind of surprised me and I asked him why and he said, "Because the carpet ends end just north of Santa Barbara and the linoleum begins!" Needless to say that cracked me up!!

So how much is it a money loser if we move up to FBS? I thought I read somewhere that Cal is currently hemorrhaging money in their sports programs.

which side had the carpet?

SoCal according to him. I edited my post so that it's more understandable.

Not hemorrhaging, worse. Over $10M a year deficit? Plus hundreds of Millions of dollars in debt from the facilities upgrade and retrofit, and now no fans w disaster FB season.

Some of the previous discussions included 3 states, which made more sense. Southern, Central (including San Francisco), and Northern California (rural, North of Marin?).

Folks forget geography? Davis - Napa, 1 hour, Livermore 90 minutes.

Ok ;but now do it on a bicycle.

Hey they need to find a way to beat Eastern Washington before you get those big dreams Bob. Beating Idaho State wouldn't hurt either.

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Guessing this one won't last long.

I recall hearing that most schools lose a lot of money in their FBS programs, with the exceptions of the top programs like Alabama and Ohio State. So why do they do it? I've heard it's alumni pressure, publicity to potential donors and recruitment of students.

And as my Ancient Roman History prof at Davis repeatedly said “all roads lead to Lodi” ……

An Aggie friend's wife who went to HSU and is from McKinleyville (Humboldt County) says Davis isn't even in the real NorCal. I wonder what she would think of your friend's comment.

San Jose State plays UNLV tonight at 8:00. Welcome to the glamour of Mountain West football.