Yeah, and total silence from the Bee on these new developments.

I once saw a dumpster on fire next to Fluffy Donuts at the U-Mall. A police cruiser and fire truck casually watching it burn itself out from a distance, apparently deciding there was no benefit to intervention. So basically this.

They are joining the BW, good. But what a horrible move for football if they can't move up. They'll be playing home and homes with Utah Tech and Southern Utah.

I believe you are correct that the Wood brothers grew up in the foster system. Credit where it is due, most people do not become a university president by age 40 regardless of background. So he must be smart, which is perhaps why the obsession with this fools errand is so curious.

don’t forget Merrimack and Sacred Heart, the other 2 independents. Big West is a better fit for them; I’m guessing the BSC had no interest in a football only

Local Sacramento area sports teams, Clown Show rankings:
1. Sac St football
2. West Sac A's
3. Kings
4. Sac St basketball

Looks like Dr wood also responded today toward a jab/negative tweet from U of South Dakota AD, and then regretted it and deleted it. Lol.

This was posted on the Sac Football Forum:

If going to the MWC meant keeping football at FCS level, then we would be golden.

Already in a FBS conference, and the NCAA wouldn’t have had an issue. Just upgrading the program to fit the MWC peer schools.

But we shunned the MWC because Wood was to rabid on PacX. Meanwhile the PacX just laughed.

If the BW is so great, why did Davis move away from that direction? They played chess while Wood played chutes and ladders.

Now Sac is in football hell. We only got $100,000 from BSC, but at least they had a trophy/ring to play for. As an Indy, no postseason, no trophy and only being paid half to play away FBS games.

What about this magical ‘26 schedule Orr had put together? Any contracts signed with FBS teams? More money lost. NIL gone, players gone, coach gone, pride comes before a fall and Sac State fell to the literal bottom.

https://bigskyfans.com/threads/the-pac-mwc-dominoes-begin-to-fall.29863/page-44

I don't think its that big of deal to be honest. It will be very interesting to see the public opinion after we see how they do on the field. If they put on a firework show and become a draw...opinions change.

All you have to look at is Jackson St, Colorado, Indiana, App St, Boise St, etc. If SACST wins and I mean wins big then you add Shaq and the basketball team showing up on ESPN every other night....this has legs...

That roster is stacked at SACST. I mean STACKED. A fiver star QB??? A legit FBS power backfield? I don't know man...I don't know how this turns out, but if I'm reading the tea leaves...I think this time next year we are going to be saying something else entirely. Just my opinion.

It sure sounds like Luke and Josh like to dish it, but can't take it. It's not the SDSU AD's problem that you spent months and months on end talking about how wonderful you are and how you transcend everything FCS and now a transition to FBS might be blowing up in your faces.

There is no denying that Sac has brought in a lot of athletically talented players to their roster. Yes, Rashada was ranked as a 5 star QB coming out of HS, but his college career has been tumultuous to say the very least. Committed to FL and left with a lawsuit against the HC. Went to ASU where he had middling stats in a couple games. Transferred to Georgia where he never played and now to Sac. If he was ALL THAT he would have found a way to stick at one of the 3 FBS schools he had already been associated with. Could he dominate FCS competition? Sure, but we'll find out in the fall. Let's also not forget Cal Poly had a 5 star QB transfer in Sam Huard and he was unimpressive. He had a lot less talent around him, but the point still stands that he was not a program changer for the Mustangs.

I still believe that if Sac State does dominate this season then Marion is gone especially if the FBS transition does not materialize. He is the definition of a ladder climber. He doesn't have any reason or ties to Sac State to keep him around if a bigger program comes knocking.

You lost me.
What do Jackson St, Colorado, Indiana, App St, Boise St have in common? Jackson State and Colorado I get.its Deion Sanders. He had a streaming channel reality show
App state to me is an argument for not moving to FBS, they went from being a massive FCS success to a mediocre team in a less than mediocre FBS conference. I can’t even spell their name.
Does Sac have a chance with their 2025 schedule to upset a Michigan, or an Oklahoma?

I have to think this is not a surprise to Woods or the Sac administration. If they were truly blind sided by this, they either bought into their own hype, were too naive to run a D1 athletics program, just plain stupid, or all of the above. If they were serious about FBS, from the start this was a hastily contrived and poorly executed plan. Just track the narrative:
PAC 12 membership gave way to FBS independent which gave way to FCS independent in a Olympic sport conference their rivals just upgraded from.
New stadium gave way to renovated stadium which gave way to renovated bathrooms.
These “facilities renovations” are small capital projects for a mid-sized college and calling them “phases” is just showmanship. I do not think Dr. Woods is stupid, but I do think this was never a serious plan.
All this may very well get them an FCS championship with players and a coach who were brought in on promises of an FBS transition and new facilities. That is if they can keep their “student athletes” out of trouble. I could sit here and say I wish Sac the best and hope they find their footing, but it would be a lie. In order to gain attention, they sold their plan on smoke & mirrors and outright lies. This allowed them to attract a group of highly athletic players as hired guns, disregarding and standards of academics and integrity.

I think the goal was to liberate NIL money, and a prerequisite for that was painting the picture of Sac being FBS. The Woods brothers see the future as one where big football programs thrive and small levels and programs suffer, and want to get into the big category. They apparently feel the Mountain West is on the wrong side of that divide. They got their NIL money and they made their pitch with success.
Now they have hit an obstacle, but the NCAA is toothless, and is on a long losing streak in the courts. It wouldn’t surprise me if the NCAA encourages a conference to invite Sac to avoid a potential law suit. They haven’t failed yet.

We don't know that the MWC ever had any real interest in Sac, no?

I've never seen anything publicly that the MWC had officially reached out to Sac.

Will Sacramento State have to pay the $1 million exit fee to the Big Sky Conference?

I don't know how this will all play out, but I think if they put out a winning team this fall things will change. I'm going to sit back and see how this falls out.

Here is what I do know. The national media is talking about SACST in July. That is not normal. I know the kids in camps are talking about Shaq and the new coach at SACST. I know they are attracting talent like never before. None of this is normal.

Too assume this will all end in failure before they have even set foot on the field is too early in my opinion. Let's see where they are in December.

Click on the tweet to see the whole post:

Wood needs an editor - it's too long, too casual, too desperate. He forgets he's supposed to be a University President. And this:

a new 25,000 seat multi-use stadium opening in 2026

What on earth is he talking about?? The bathroom upgrade?

Interesting that he says the school committed to 105 scholarships.
(The House settlement sets roster limit of 105 but doesn’t require 105 scholarships. The SEC limits there members scholarships to 83.)
Scholarships is likely why they are leaving the BigSky. As an FCS independent they can recruit just like an FBS team, and schedule as they would have if the waiver had been granted.

Is Woods sure that Sac will have a new stadium built to open in 2026 or is that just more hyperbole without any plans to definitively show that it is actually in the works? What is the "30,000 square foot football facility" that Woods also says that Sac "just opened?" I don't remember seeing anything like that but maybe I missed it.

He couldn't bluff his way to construction starting this offseason on a new stadium so he's punting to next year and hoping some sugar daddy writes a $200 million check I guess?

Here is the original tweet that Woods made back on April 10 essentially saying that FCS football is "JV football" as far as Sac is concerned:

Plot Twist for Sac State Football Independence + Updates On ASUN, WAC, Big Sky Movement

Well, this is another twist in the ever-evolving saga of Sacramento State. For those of you keeping score at home, the Hornets have gone from launching a $50 million Name, Image & Likeness (NIL) fund to scaling back academic programs, all in pursuit of the elusive dream of joining the Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS). A dream that, let’s face it, only a handful of programs actually turn a profit from competing at that level (or any level!). Oh, and don’t tell Ohio State, Alabama and Texas (among others!) that a FCS school has a bigger NIL budget than them.

Now here comes the latest chapter.

On Monday, the FBS Oversight Committee formally recommended that the Division I Council deny Sacramento State’s waiver request to move up to the FBS — the highest level of college football. That decision isn’t final yet, but you can feel the direction this is heading.

So, how did Sacramento State respond?

Yes, the Hornets plan to go independent in football, even as an FCS independent, if the FBS bid is officially denied. And don’t be surprised if legal action follows. A lawsuit wouldn’t be shocking, given how committed they seem to this path.

Monday: Denial recommendation.
Tuesday: Leak an announcement to become an independent.
Wednesday: Make the announcement official in a very extravagant way.
Thursday: Find a way to make “Go-Go” work more into their marketing scheme for becoming independent.

Life comes at you fast.

Whole article here: https://herosports.com/fcs-plot-twist-sac-state-football-independence-ksks/

it’s in relation to popularity. Kids are looking to play in a fun highly competitive place. The old way of traditional schools has lost much of its luster. Those schools all have had excellent season that changed the perception of their universities. I can see something similar happening to sacst.

So the 2022 12-1 season with the only loss a narrow one in the playoffs. didn’t move the perception much, but this season will?
i don’t know if people appreciate how weakened most FCS teams are from transfers. Anything short of a national championship won’t be a better showing than Sac’s showing of just a few years ago.

I don't know. Honestly. it could blow up or it could fizzle. I honestly don't know. But I do know they have talent and talent gives anyone a chance. All I'm saying is we should wait and see who this turns out before jumping to any conclusions. I can say I will absolutely be at both SACST vs Davis games in basketball.