• cmt
    189
    The polls, I think moreso the coaches than the Stats (or AP Poll for FBS) are very over reactionary. You're much better off looking at computer rankings to find out which teams are better. That's not to say the computers are perfect.

    Like last week we barely beat Utah Tech while South Dakota and Illinois St both lost FBS games so we jumped them in the coaches poll. But this week we lose an FBS game while Illinois St beats an FCS team and they jump us. Why does Montana St drop 3 spots after losing a 2OT game to the No.2 team? I guess Illinois St's 41-13 win over Morehead St and Rhode Island's 31-17 win over Stony Brook were both super impressive.

    At least in Illinois St's case, they get the MVFC gauntlet to prove themselves since they play NDSt, SDSt, SD and Southern Illinois.
  • Riveraggie
    325
    I find it irritating that analysts keep touting the five returning O linemen, when one is not going to play until later in season. Porotesano is a red shirt freshmen who played in two games prior to this season. ( I don’t know why the team does not classify anyone besides transfers as a redshirt-whatever, makes the team look older than it is,)
  • Riveraggie
    325
    The computer rankings have little data until there are a few games played and they have comparative scores. At this point in the season most or all computer rankings are still influenced by last season or preseason predictions, so garbage in garbage out. Last season is largely irrelevant this year due to player movement. I’m a believer in computer rankings but only after five or six games,
  • cmt
    189
    Very true. Voters are biased by their preconceived thoughts as well. So yeah any polls/computer rankings at this point should be taken with a grain of salt.

    I also can't stand the coaches poll in any sport since it's pretty well known that many coaches don't actually vote or are heavily biased towards their conferences when they (or whichever staffer fills it out for them) do vote. I mean, I get why because the coach isn't getting paid to pay attention to all of the other teams to be able to form opinions on where teams should be ranked.
  • AggieFinn
    665
    Polls, Schmolls, won't matter until about week 8 or 9.

    We got smoked plain and simple, and Washington certainly looks like a Top 10 team, or did we just make them look that good? I don't know, but playing a decent Southern Utah team at home, who whooped Idaho State, and actually just lost to San Diego -- will be a good measuring stick. Will be watching the NAU @ SUU game on Saturday.
  • SochorField
    338
    BYU 69 PSU 0
    Oregon 59 Montana State 13
    Boise St. 51 Eastern 14
    Utah 63 Cal Poly 9
    Washington 70 Davis 10
    Arizona 48 Weber 3
    SochorField

    This is a 60-8 average beatdown for the Big Sky. I'm not sure it warranted a drop in the polls....but it is what it is. More motivation to get better.
  • eastbayaggie
    127
    This is one person's take on the Top 766:

    Interesting tidbits:
    Washington #29
    North Dakota State #40. Damn!
    Tarleton State #78 and #2 in FCS
    UC Davis #141 and #16 in FCS
    Sacramento State #177 and #42 in FCS

  • Davis supreme
    3
    Id argue that their top WR was actually Denzel Boston #12 who is draft eligible and by all accounts that I've seen is supposed to go in the top 3 rounds... Considering that I think cofield and Richardson did a pretty nice job on him throughout the game
  • Davis supreme
    3
    my previous post being in response to this one*
  • DrMike
    925
    During the alumni zoom, a couple interesting tidbits came out. One that stood out - it was mentioned that the Washington payroll was $30M in NIL. Plough echoed what was said here - the gap between schools like us and the elite is bigger than ever. Apparently, the number of large differential games this last weekend (can’t remember the criteria) was historical.
  • eastbayaggie
    127
    Because of this great disparity, I'm strongly against playing any P4 school. That game was not fun to watch at all. Because we're apparently poor, we need the money to play these games.
  • Riveraggie
    325

    Games decided by more than 50 points. Note a couple of FCS vs FCS matchups
    Just imagine how many interesting games will never be played because these took their spot on the schedule.

    Ohio State vs. Grambling State
    70-0
    Florida State vs. East Texas A&M
    77-3
    Oregon vs. Oklahoma State
    69-3
    Tennessee vs. ETSU
    72-17
    Alabama vs. UL Monroe
    63-0
    Minnesota vs. Northwestern State
    66-0
    Utah vs. Cal Poly
    63-9
    Washington vs. UC Davis
    70-10
    East Carolina vs. Campbell
    56-3
    UCF vs. North Carolina A&T
    68-7
    North Dakota State vs. Tennessee State
    59-3
    Tarleton State vs. Mississippi Valley State
    59-3
  • SochorField
    338
    Minnesota vs. Rhode Island
    66-0
    Riveraggie
    Minnesota beat Northwestern State this season 66-0. Last season they beat Rhode Island 48-0. Looks like Minnesota needs these game too!
  • Riveraggie
    325
    Now you are going to make me check all these as i got that from an AI query.
  • Riveraggie
    325
    Weird that the scores were right but some of the defeated team was wrong. Corrected now.
  • NCagalum
    327
    I had to think while watching the game that maybe it was maybe not the right time to unveil the “Shredville” and “blue force” helmet labels for the UDub game.
  • Jackbacker2
    43
    I fear that the money gap between the p-4 schools and non p-4 schools will widen every year. People and organizations with money tend to gather money at a faster rate than those groups and or people with lesser money. If this happens I see that the P-4 schools are soon going to keep everything internal with only having p-4 schools play p-4 schools. I fear that they will morph into 4 conferences of 16 with 2 sub conferences of 8. Their out of conference games will be with another p-4 conference and they will have conference show downs. Last year's top team will play the other team's top team and the 2nd place will play etc. This would bring in more revenue for them and build a bigger moat for the rest of the teams.
  • Riveraggie
    325
    It isn’t so much that money begets money, it is that teams that have a hundred years of success, have built advantages. They have fan bases, 100,000 seat stadiums, that they can fill, the multigenerational traditions in communities, and mind share. The NCAA for generations created rules which maintained a higher level of competitiveness by keeping the wealthy from using their money advantage to directly purchase talent. Now the courts, totally disregarding the public interest in having parity as the public were not parties before the court, have eliminated those rules, creating a situation where only the rich can compete. It is for the best that P4 teams don’t play lower tier D1 teams in games which the lesser teams have little chance of making look like a contest, much less win.
  • Jackbacker2
    43
    Riveraggie The Bluebloods of football and men's basketball have generational tribes that have put money into the schools. This money in the way of facilities and traditional excellence generate more money. They have also taken some of the money and used the resources that come with so much money to develop ways to decrease competitiveness and increase their dominance. I fear that this is accelerating.

    Kentucky has started a non-profit to increase payment to its athletes and I believe that this will be the standard for P-4 schools.
    https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2025/05/20/privatization-of-collegiate-athletics-begins-kentucky-announces-champions-blue-llc/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

    Non-P-4 schools are going to become less relevant and sports other than true money generating sports (football and men's basketball will also become less relevant.
  • DrMike
    925
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    Couldn’t have gotten on UCLA’s schedule this year? Dang.
  • NCagalum
    327
    Exactly my thought. They looked horrible.
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