• Russ Bowlus
    373
    Davis hasn't played hardly any of the new MWC teams over the last decade; Wyoming (lost) and Nevada (won) were the two that jumped out in my quick scan of past recentish results. Based on last-year's NCAA NET rating, WBB will probably be mid-pack in the MWC. That said, NET rating had Davis behind several BW teams that they beat head-to-head, so.... who knows.
  • Zander
    257
    Eye test when i was at SDSU led me to be convinced that Gross's stellar teams of the era would easily be competitive in the MWC. I remember my student who was on the WBB team was quite grumpy about losing to Morgan Bertsch and the Ags
  • NCagalum
    394
    Cutting through the BS of Sac State Administrators and local politicians re: stadium chimera.

  • Pacifico2
    246
    Been several decades since I've been to Hornet Stadium on campus there, but why can't they just sit tight, raise less money than all the BS, pipe dream ideas they have, and renovate/improve that joint to an acceptable level? Just curious why they're so eager to move when all the video clips I've seen show pretty solid looking attendance on campus.
  • davisguy52
    120
    feels like admin using Sac St. as a vessel to improve personal resume to climb ladder to next gig. a stepping stone. if you deeply care about something, you aren't reckless with it's survival chances. luckily, it seems the Davis team cares
  • 72Aggie
    386
    But good news for the Hornets; the NCAA has removed the two year ban on post season play for teams moving to FBS. Six wins and they could be bowl bound this December. Then the big bowl money comes rolling in.
  • Pacifico2
    246
    The games the MAC are tied to like the Mrytle Beach Bowl and Boca Raton bowl have payouts of $500,000, $450,000, numbers like that. Hardly gamechanging money.in today's college football.

    I do have an acquaintance who is very close to the administration at Sac, an enthusiastic Dr. Wood KoolAid consumer. They tell me that the plan is to hold on until they can attempt to move into the downtown soccer stadium, but that is not even a layup for them. Overall, trying to expand more towards that part of town where they have some sort of auxiliary campus tied to some tech money. You guys in the area will know better about that than I do. What jumped out to me was the uncertainty about being able to get into the soccer venue.
  • SochorField
    619
    So.....after all that....playing at Hornet Stadium in September? lol

    TBH the Sac / SDSU situations further my feeling that Big Sky football is just fine for Davis for the foreseeable future.
  • MoroskiFan
    1
    Responding (respectfully) to part of Aggie 69’s post last week (“That Luke wood has so bamboozled …the students is just beyond belief”). Actually, the students (and faculty and staff) are extremely concerned and upset about Luke Wood’s FBS push. On-campus polls, surveys forums and protests all reflect nothing against Football, repeated pleas to fund the essentials first (offering basic courses, fixing crumbling infrastructure, hiring/retaining qualified faculty) and almost universal disdain for Wood’s agenda and methods.

    The fact that all the controversy has failed to result in any journalistic judgement or CSU intervention is indeed puzzling. Some of it may be uncertainty about the finances. Despite incredible Football and Basketball expenditures (in a Chronicle interview last summer Brennan Marion marveled at how much Wood and Orr were willing to spend: “I kept asking and they kept saying yes”), there’s been no audit or detailed accounting. Where is the money coming from? In the March NY Times article about the MAC move, Sac State CFO Rose McAuliffe said the University has been preparing; “We’ve been saving for the last couple of years.” She did not detail the source for these savings. Tough to ask her; she no longer works at Sac State, having joined CSUS admin exodus (the Provost just left as well ... https://www.reddit.com/r/CSUS/comments/1tu6x2y/cameron_out_as_provostwhat_happened/).

    On campus (and also at the Bee), hopes that CSU Chancellor Mildred Garcia would step in have fizzled. As Wood moved forward, Garcia response was to approve raises for CSU Presidents. Assembly Bill 1831, if passed, will roll back these raises.

    But it is certain that the students (and faculty and staff) feel betrayed, even those of us (like myself) who love college sports. Wood raised Fees, in part to support a new stadium, over strong objections from the students. He chose the Alternative Consultation Process, which required meetings with the students to discuss possible fee increases. Wood appeared only briefly at those meetings. He made introductory remarks and then left before the students could voice their objections to him, objections he has never acknowledged ("that’s not what I heard"). Once Wood raised the fees, he then - to garner support and tamp down journalists’ questions- told the public that the students “voted” for the fee increases.

    Furthermore when the students pleaded with Wood to roll back his fee increases so that more of their money could go to campus basics like academics, Wood claimed he could not do so, trotting out his highly deceptive “separate funding streams” talking point, as in “academics and athletics are funded from different pots, and money cannot be moved from one pot to another”. That’s rubbish. Clear CSU Policy gives Wood full power to reduce Category II fees. The students could then use that money to support an Academic Access Fee (common at other CSUs). So money Wood is planning to take from student pockets to fund help his stadium and athletics push very easily could go where the students and campus want and need it to go. Wood’s other response to students’ pleas has been to suggest that the students impose additional fee increases on themselves to pay for courses and other basics.

    Another problem is the CSUS Administration (including College Deans, the Finance Office etc). No one seems willing to speak out or, in a few cases, even talk about the problems. A Bee reporter told me his interviewees did acknowledge how bad things are but then pulled back at the last minute and become unwilling to go on the record.

    The new ASI officers give us some hope; the top criteria expressed by voting students was that a willingness to stand up to Wood. The new Provost gives us some hope. The departing Provost (a Wood hire) was highly unqualified; her previous experience was at a college with 19 Undergraduates (seriously!). Her replacement is a long-term CSUS Faculty member. Just as I loved Moroski to Ellison, I love Sac State and want to see positive change.
  • Pacifico2
    246
    Interesting take and reporting about the student body opposing Wood's agenda and what sounds like less than transparent ways... I scratched my head looking at the video that was posted, the on-campus stadium was generally packed for the games used in those clips. There's always been support there, but I think Sacramento in general is fed up with pipe dreams and promises when it comes to sports, and they might as well take the less expensive road here and improve what they have, where they have it.
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