• Riveraggie
    435

    The natural range of Redwoods corresponds to where they have summer fog, they get a lot of their moisture through the leaves. Might be hard to grow in davis successfully Maybe Sequoias might do better as their range is not defined by fog. Dont know. I live in the north bay and see a lot of water stressed Redwoods and we do get summer fog but not enough.
  • movielover
    738
    Aren't there redwoods near Putah Creek / Mrak?
  • agalum
    598
    My son lives in Elk Grove and has 4 or 5 big beautiful red woods. Its true in nature they get a lot of their water through transpiration but from what I’ve seen when used in landscaping they survive fine from just being itrigated.
  • ucdboyd
    77
    Yep, we already have a redwood grove on campus- here's a screen grab of google maps
    Screenshot-(249).png
  • ucdboyd
    77
    Yes, they can grow just fine in less than ideal places like Elk Grove or Davis but they need help- shade when the are young, plenty of water, and 3 tree clusters will help them grow better. I apologize for so many post about redwood trees in a football forum, I'm a redwood nerd-lol.
  • NCagalum
    397
    Actually plants/trees lose water via transpiration. Sorry …. did my MS on evapotranspiration estimation.

    Interesting article on other mechanisms associated with redwoods.

    https://www.ucdavis.edu/climate/news/discovery-uncovers-new-leaf-redwoods
  • agalum
    598

    Thanks for that. I took one botany class but i thought transpiration actually opened up channels for water to be absorbed.
    Sorry folks, we got off on a tangent, lol.
  • eastbayaggie
    176
    Botany class was my unexpectedly favorite UC Davis class.
  • AggieFinn
    916


    Was it SW of the Genomics building? ie, are they building Lot 53 up?
  • Zander
    266
    Since I happened to have just done some hiking in one of the old-growth redwood forests this morning, I totally get you on the redwood interest. They really leave an impression.

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  • Zander
    266
    Re: using them for landscaping, one of the things I learned when reading up visit said grove was that coast redwoods can grow to their near theoretical maximum height without being exposed to fog (though rare in nature), just like the above posts said you need a constant water source. So it might need some sort of active irrigation system to keep them looking pristine (the grove I went to had a creek running through it).

    What I’m wondering is how long it would take to grow them to a meaningful height, or whether they can be planted in at 20-30 feet. I’m reading they grow fast in early years but still might take decades to reach a meaningful height (like 70-100 ft). Using large trees as part of a stadium renovation definitely would imply some long-haul plans
  • agalum
    598

    “ Was it SW of the Genomics building? ie, are they building Lot 53 up?”
    No, just north of genomics near the SW corner of the stadium along health science drive.
  • Pacifico2
    273
    I was going to drop the three tree cluster knowledge on you but you got around to it, so you are absolutely a Redwood aficionado my man!
  • movielover
    738
    You'd think as an ag school we'd have our own nursery of trees so we don't have to use 5' transplants for new projects.
  • ucdboyd
    77
    They can grow fast if taken care of properly. Here is 13 and 1/2 years of growth for 1 of the healthy trees we have. If we had put 10 or 12, 3 tree clusters in that grass area just south of the stadium and properly cared for them it would look great right now. We do have 2 healthy redwoods so I guess that's a start.
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  • Zander
    266
    Totally slipped my memory that we already have a couple of trees at the stadium -- probably because they looked more like the first pic the last time I was at that end!
  • Pacifico2
    273
    We need one more to complete the trifecta. Perhaps we need some help from our brethren to the north up at Cal Poly, Humboldt. They know a thing or two about redwoods, among other things.
  • ucdboyd
    77
    The thing that bums me out is that we had originally had 10 or 12 redwoods planted there but they were not properly cared for. Only 2 remain that are healthy, 1 is sad and stunted and the others must have died and been removed. :(
  • Pacifico2
    273
    Palm trees grow like weeds and are easy to plant and remove, fairly hardy, look good. Is that too SoCal for a NorCal program?
  • eastbayaggie
    176
    How far north can palm trees survive?
  • Pacifico2
    273
    Gotta be some over in Sac somewhere. If I recall from the time I took my children there many moons ago, there are palm trees on the State Capitol grounds. If they can grow in Sac, they can grow in Davis.
  • ucdtim17
    25
    Please leave the palm trees in socal. They are ugly, they don't provide any useful shade (which should be a priority everywhere around the stadium), they host rats and they periodically drop big heavy sharp fronds. All bad.
  • Jdur
    506
    I would not want palm trees at all in Davis. My pet peeve is palm trees in norcal. If were gonna do some big trees, something like foothill pines (for pines) or just oaks is good imo.
  • Pacifico2
    273
    With at least two votes against, here's a viable, evergreen option that might work. Meet Thuja plicata x standishii, aka Thuja Green Giant, a vigorous, fast-growing evergreen hybrid widely used for privacy screens and windbreaks. It features soft, rich green foliage year-round, grows 3 to 5 feet per year, and matures to a height of 40 to 60 feet. The Red Barn Nursery there in Davis might carry them. We can get a bunch planted down on the scoreboard end, they'll look Redwood-like, and we can chant "BEAT LA" during the break between the 1st and 2nd quarters :rofl:

    Everything you said about the palm family is spot-on. Little known fact: exactly zero species of palm tree is native to California. All imported from elsewhere, but they are easily spread with all the tree crap they dump all over the place; fronds, bark, nuts, you name it. Not a good choice for our stadium. Are there any around town aside from In-n-Out?
  • Jdur
    506
    there are a few next to my apartment in North-central Davis.. some doing better than others lol
  • Akiltopmack99
    56
    I have a palm tree in my backyard. Used to have two. Definitely not a great idea to plant them at the stadium. Their seeds drop and constantly grow trees.
  • agalum
    598
    We used to have 2 palm trees at our rental in Woodland. Messy trees. You need to keep the dried fronds removed otherwise its a haven for rodents and bee hives. They did look cool. I eventually removed them.
  • ucdboyd
    77
    Hard pass on the palm trees, I agree that they seem too So Cal for Davis. That and the fact that a dead rat fell out of a palm tree at a friend's house when I was a child- I think I'm still traumatized by it- lol.

    I'm a big redwood fan but any healthy trees in that grass area behind the scoreboard would look good IMO.
  • Pacifico2
    273
    New name for this thread: Palm Tree Recovery Group. Man, you guys have had a rough go with those things. I'm not exactly a fan; my neighbor has one that we have to clean up after all the time and some varieties sprout up in the corners of my property occasionally. Have not experienced the Davis rat drop though like some of you, that's nasty. I've seen alley rats in Davis several times, but now I'm going to be careful if I walk under a palm tree. Dried palm fronds burn well if you're ever looking for a bonfire, but with your luck, a pack of rats will explode after you light the damn thing!
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